i was -- i sat through katrina when katrina happened. so i have kind been through a little bit of this before. but this is -- what happened here the skop scope of it. i don't think we know the scope. >> the magnitude is greater than anyone has grasped yet. >> this is where we need our news media to come in. if i may we need fewer reporters standing in waist-high water seeing they are going to be blown over and more real reporting, real news. what's going on. >> i have heard that criticism. i don't agree and i will tell you why. when i see someone standing in atlantic city in the middle of a boardwalk actually in water and i agree with him. anyone man enough that thinks they should be going out for a stroll, walking a dog and looks at that and saysly stay in. >> i was looking ate and watching ali being blown around in new york city. my first thought was why is cnn trying to kill ali velshi? what did he do here? >> ali -- >> for the 2008 crash coverage. >> it is a dramatic image that fully tells the story of how big this is and how dangero